Posts by The Bethelite

in a recent post about the watchtower’s claim that all animals were created as vegetarians, one commenter said that watchtower could no longer sustain this belief so they simply stopped talking about it.

i began thinking about other wacky doctrines and statements by the borg that have faded away.

i’ll offer two of them below, but the complete list must be longer than your arm.. 7000 year-long creative days: watchtower once taught that each of the creative days was 7,000 years in duration, hence the hype leading up to 1975. they believed that year marked 6,000 years since adam’s creation, and oh how nicely the 1,000-year reign would fit as the last piece of the puzzle, thus completing the final “day”.

The Bethelite

How about how you could have association with people that left the organization before 1950. Then for 24 years you had to shunn them. Then from 1974 to 1980 you could have "limited" association with them and now from 1980, you have to shunn them again!

The Light gets brighter then it got dim then it got brighter then it got dim again.....

I guess their god gets very confused one this very important matter. A matter that has caused the death and heartache of thousands.

Or maybe there is no god just a bunch of crazy old men in New York, dreaming all this shit up.

Keith Casarona

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Just one foot in...

by Jofi_Wofo in

...with one foot out.. *deep breath*.

from day one, i've felt like i was one foot out of this religion, but it took me until over a decade to reach the point where i am ready to move on.

i'm a newly registered user to this site.

The Bethelite

Yes welcome.

When I left the Organization 19 years ago I had no idea there was a places like this one. To not think your crazy, because of what you have gone through is a real comfort for sure. Yes, good people here with lots of insane stories of what this organization has done to people.

Namaste my friend

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After 60 Years She is Heading Out!

by The Bethelite in

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if you read my book "new boy" i talked about a girl i met in 1972 at a convention in allentown pa. i fell in love with her at first sight.

however a problem came up a couple of months later, when i met and fell in love with my future wife, debbie.

both women's mothers didn't like me at all (go figure) and it was literally a coin toss between the two women.

The Bethelite

"your friend is happy with her situation in awakening."

I don't how happy she is with over 2 dozen family members still in and her trying to fade. It has created a whole new world of problems for sure.

That's what happens when you take the "red pill"

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After 60 Years She is Heading Out!

by The Bethelite in

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if you read my book "new boy" i talked about a girl i met in 1972 at a convention in allentown pa. i fell in love with her at first sight.

however a problem came up a couple of months later, when i met and fell in love with my future wife, debbie.

both women's mothers didn't like me at all (go figure) and it was literally a coin toss between the two women.

The Bethelite

If you read my book "New Boy" I talked about a girl I met in 1972 at a convention in Allentown PA. I fell in love with her at first sight.

However a problem came up a couple of months later, when I met and fell in love with my future wife, Debbie.

Both women's mothers didn't like me at all (go figure) and it was literally a coin toss between the two women.

I choose Debbie. Well if you read the book you know where that road went for almost 40 years.

Fast forward, the Pennsylvania woman Gayle tracked me down in 2010. She hadn't forgot about me. She told me she was very surprised and disappointed in me for leaving the tooth.

She was so crushed after I dumped her, she married the first guy to come along and got married to a self righteous elder. She said, she knew it was a mistake as they were walking down the aisle! She had 4 daughters with him. However, he was an abusive piece of shit and she had an affair with a "worldly man" and finally got the affection she needed. However she got pregnant with this this new guy.

What a mess. She of course got Dfed and crawled back to her JW husband and Jehover. However the abuse was now worse than ever. She couldn't handle it anymore and left her husband and married the worldly guy. But because of her guilt of being a "bad" mother and the situation, the Witness husband got custody of all 5 children even the one that wasn't his!

After a couple of years of legal battles she finally got her baby back but the other 4 girls were stuck with their father....

After many years of shame and wearing "the Scarlet letter" in the back of the kingdom hall she was finally let back into the fold. However, the "brothers" never really forget do they. She is invited to very few "Witness" functions.

When she contacted me, she was still a believer, anyway she is the only Jehovah's Witness that didn't shunn me and we have been good friends and have been talking to each other these last 10 years.

Well, my book came out on April 19, 2019 and of course she got one of the first copies and read the whole thing in just 2 days!

She didn't know about the whole JWs and the United Nations thing and of course all the other bull shit that when on at the headquarters. I sent her Ray's Book too and that was the final straw.

She has started her fade now after 60 years a Watchtower slave.... However, this can be difficult as all know. She still has a couple of her daughters are still "in" along with grandchildren.

Good Job Gayle.....

No matter how long you have been in "The Borg" you too can escape!

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The JW media Mecca

by lastmanstanding in

i was thinking about how the org is dying, and how the guboobs are trying to give it cpr by transitioning to tvpreach.

now they will construct a media mecca and it looks like they will go full on e digital.

so, i was trying to come up with a name for their new hollywood that would stick.

The Bethelite

"Big Brother" channel. With monitors and a live feed in every room in your house.

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I am now 73 and the road has been filled with wonders

by Terry in

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i appreciate all my friends who stop to read what i write and post.

you help me more than you know simply by being there as a sense of 'family of friends' for me to talk to and 'share' thoughts with.i guess if i didn't have stories left to tell or people to listen, i could pack it in and join elon musk in a colony on mars.january 15, 2020. .

which world is this?_________________when the doctor pulled my screaming body out of mom all those 7 decades ago, i landed in a post-wwii world.it was--compared to today's world--an alien planet.the world i live in today has nothing in common with the world in which i grew up.there were no cell phones back then--there were black telephones with a dial-tone and an operator who placed your call.everywhere you found telephone booths!

The Bethelite

I would say Happy Birthday but I was brought up not to believe in that. lol

Thank you for the walk down memory lane. You are 34 months older than me but I was picking up what you were laying down.

It felt like you talking about the "good old days" even though you didn't come right out and say it.

They were for sure interesting times.....with a lot of changes going on. Were they better times?

Who knows.

I don't think they were any better or worse than what is going on today. Just different and different can feel scary for sure. I don't know about you but I really wonder what happened to the last 70 years....were did go?

Like you, I'm feeling my age and know time and me are heading towards that great and final mystery. Who knows we might all be surprised when that door opens.

Anyway keep up the good work my friend. Maybe I'll see you on the flip side.....lol

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Amazing Read,Check this out!

by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

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currently reading : 30 years a watchtower slave.

cannot put it down.. this book pre-dates ray franz book "crisis of conscience", written from early 20th century, shortly after the jehovah's witnesses were formed.

the author describes the original true background of the watchtower society as a multi-million dollar publishing company.

The Bethelite

Funny, I was going to call my book "New Boy" "50 years a Watchtower slave." since I had him beat by 20 years but decided against it lol.

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confused with nowhere to turn

by Rebecca in

i'm 43 and a divorced mother of 2. in january 2019 i met the man i thought i could spend the rest of my life with.

we were happy and even though our relationship wasn't perfect (like all relationships) i thought we had a chance and were building a life together with our young kids.

background on me - i've been divorced since 2012 after 12 years of marriage.

The Bethelite

I send you a PM look at the green box at the top of the page.

Keith